I had the opportunity to see Mandy Moore while she appeared on the Rosie O’Donnell show in New York several years ago. I was very impressed with how gracious Mandy Moore was to some fans during commercial breaks of the show. Although I did not know much about her back then, I was impressed with how together she appeared to be and the maturity with which she held herself, particularly for one so young in a cut throat business. Ever since then, I have had a great deal of respect for the actress/singer.

You can imagine how shocked I was when I received from a friend an invite to a “launch party” for PetArmor, a generic form of Frontline containing fipronil as the active ingredient. Here’s the Save The Date teaser:

ASPCA and Mandy Moore Teaser

Notice how they don’t mention PetArmor at all in the teaser. This was followed up by an email on April 12, 2011 stating: “More information will be coming soon” for the event on the 20th. On the 14th, the full media alert was released. Here are a few highlights:


Launches Innovative Campaign, Category-Changing Animal Health Product and Announces Collaboration Between PetArmor™ and the ASPCA


Mandy Moore and the ASPCA® (The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals®) celebrate the launch of PetArmor™, the first EPA-approved generic flea and tick treatment with fipronil for both dogs and cats, by signing the PetArmor Protection Pledge and launching a national awareness campaign to highlight the importance of animal healthcare.

Together, they encourage pet owners to take the pledge and protect pets from the dangers of fleas and ticks.  PetArmor is a new, over-the-counter product that offers the same active ingredients and the same flea and tick protection as Frontline® but at significant savings.  PetArmor will considerably change the pet care aisle, making flea and tick protection more affordable and accessible to pet owners nationwide.


Because about 73 million U.S. households have one or more pets, with dogs and cats accounting for about three-quarters.*(via APPA) And now, at significant savings off the leading brand name product, PetArmor promises better health for all pets. Additionally, with each person who takes the pledge, PetArmor will make a $1.00 donation to the ASPCA, up to $100,000.


Mandy Moore signing the pledge, interacting with dogs and cats

Mandy Moore discussing her commitment to protecting pets and the importance of campaign and innovative new product

Remarks and interviews with an ASPCA Veterinarian and PetArmor officials

First, Betty White goes to Sergeant’s without really looking into the products she is backing and now the lovely Mandy Moore?

The release sounds too good to be true – and it is. First, I already wrote about the conflict of interest that the ASPCA has in their toxicology department has with the makers of pet flea and tick treatments. This “launch” backing PetArmor is a prime example of blatantly stepping over the line. The ASPCA Poison Control Center takes the adverse reaction calls for flea and tick products. Manufacturers are required to report to the EPA. However, the ASPCA Professional Services also testify in court for these same companies and take money from these companies for their services. Most companies know which side their bread is buttered on and the ASPCA is no exception. Despite the Humane Society and almost every other major animal advocacy organization has stated that over-the-counter flea and tick products are an issue, but the ASPCA still claims what manufacturers say (which is illegal technically by the way): “Safe when used as directed.”

Putting the ASPCA “stamp of approval” on a pet product designed with highly toxic pesticides, and undisclosed “inert” ingredients which could be even more harmful, is reckless and lulls the public into a greater sense of false security. We already have that issue with pet parents thinking that because something is on the shelf at the grocery store or retailer, that it has some measure of safety.

One of the main focal points of the PetArmor marketing strategy is getting people to sign their “Pledge”. For everyone who signs, they donate one dollar to the already wealthy ASPCA coffers.

Mandy Moore Signs the PetArmor Pledge after listing the names of her pets who will now be "protected" by it.

But who is PetArmor and how did this happen?

PetArmor’s “on record” manufacturer brand is FidoPharm. A cutesy name for a dangerous product. It brings to mind frolicking puppies running on green grass. It’s actually owned by a company called Velcera, who was in a legal patent dispute with Merial, the makers of Frontline. For some reason, at the EPA, the use of PetArmor and PetArmor Plus was registered by what they call their “affiliate” LoradoChem, Inc. officially located at Cira Centre, 12th Floor, 29202 Arch St., Philadelphia, PA 19104-2891. This address is actually registered to a lawfirm which specializes in intellectual property litigation, Woodcock Washburn LLP.

It was difficult to find any information on the company LoradoChem except in reference to this generic product. That makes me think it was created by this law firm specifically to register PetArmor without raising the eyebrows of Merial, who were already involved with a patent infringement lawsuit about PetArmor.

John Preston, the Chairman of the Board of Velcera, used to be the founding Executive Chairman of Merial, the makers of Frontline. He also worked for various branches of Merck.

Dennis Steadman is Velcera’s CEO. He was the Vice President of Merial, makers of Frontline and also served as Vice President of US Operations for Merck.

The rest of the Directors appear to be venture capitalists.

According to the EPA, the registration numbers for PetArmor (86230-1, 86230-2, 86230-3 and 86230-4) will all be made in India. Alternate name brands that will be the same registration numbers include TrustGard, Velcera Fipronil and Fipronil for Cats (or Fipronil for Dogs).

Is it Safe?

At the end of the day, most pet parents just want to know they are making the safest decision for their pets and family. You ALWAYS must be very careful when using a chemical based pesticide, especially in your home or on your pets. This is heavy-duty stuff and it is designed to kill. It kills well, but at what cost?

Is fipronil safe? For years, vets who have been at conferences sponsored by the companies that produce these products have mimicked the words of their product reps. “Safe when used as directed”. But they won’t tell you that fipronil is considered a possible carcinogen and a suspected endocrine disruptor. They won’t tell you this because they likely don’t know.

According to the 1996 Fact Sheet on fipronil:

Fipronil has been classified as a Group C (Possible Human) Carcinogen based on an increase in thyroid follicular cell tumors in both sexes of the rat. The increase is statistically significant by both pair-wise and trend analyses. The RfD methodology was selected for quantification because the thyroid tumors appeared to be related to a disruption in the thyroid-pituitary status…

An acceptable chronic rat feeding study identified the following effects: seizures, including seizures resulting in death, decreased body weight gain, decreased food consumption and food conversion efficiency, decreased hematology measures, alterations in clinical chemistry (cholesterol, calcium, and protein), alterations in thyroid hormones, alterations in urine chemistry, changes on gross necropsy, increase in liver and thyroid weights, and progressive senile nephropathy (kidney effects)…

The acute dietary endpoint of concern is acute neurotoxicity… based on decreased hind leg splay observed at this level at seven hours post treatment. The TES committee also identified short and intermediate term occupational and residential exposure end points based on a 21-day dermal toxicity study…

… reproductive toxicity was … based on clinical signs of toxicity, decreased litter size, decreased body weights, decrease in the percentage of animals mating, reduction in fertility index, reduced post-implantation survival and offspring postnatal survivability, and delay in physical development….

And on and on. Of course the label will have the now familiar caution of “Hazardous to Humans and Domestic Animals” on it.

I hope for a day when these products can be easily evaluated in a true and honest fashion by pet parents, instead of by marketing ploys and tactics. Mandy Moore, if you ever read this, I hope you take this to heart. When you think you are protecting your pets, you are doing them and yourself a great disservice to health. There are safer alternatives. Cheaper is not better.

For a more information, check out this wonderful article by James TerBush of Biospot Victims on the FidoPharm and ASPCA “partnership”. You may need to scroll the page to find it, but James has managed to gather a vast database of information.

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  • Boydlan

    Are you saying that Frontline is not safe either?

    • Anonymous

      I think that everyone should do their own research and make their own decisions regarding what they feel is best for their pet’s and family’s care and health. You might want to read this article about Frontline and generics specifically http://tinytimmy.org/2011/04/29/frontline-and-its-generic-equivalent-is-it-really-safe/

      In 2008, over 4,000 reported incidences of adverse reactions to spot on products were from Frontline. There were over 44,000 adverse reactions in total that were reported to the EPA. There were 96 out of 1600 total death attributed to Frontline products. Merial, the makers of Frontline, attribute this to saying they have the largest market share and sell more doses than anyone else. At least 3 other products and companies also claim the same, yet manufacturers refused to release sales numbers so that some type of % could be assessed to the adverse reactions publicly. They told the EPA sales numbers were suddenly confidential business items and trade secrets.

      • Allison

        I stopped using Frontline a couple of years ago after hearing how bad it can be to my cats.  I have since found Capstar pills made by Novartis, and they do not do into the cat’s system, but rather is passed when they urinate. You can also give a pill each day if needed. It seems to be a safer way to go. They also have Capstar for Dogs. I researched before I bought and only found positive reviews, even from owners of older dogs and cats who could not take the onslaught of chemicals from Frontline or Pet Amour.   Sargents also has a homeopathic flea tick spot on treatment, and except for the overly potpouri smell I have not read any adverse reactions.  However, I am satisfied with Capstar and have only used that since I found it.  It works in 30 minutes and you can see the fleas dropping off dead.

        • Anonymous

          Hi Allison! Capstar is the suggestion if chemicals are needed for an outbreak that is on the Alternatives section. It is out of the system in 3 days and gives you time to look for other solutions to help such as vacuuming, flea combing, washing bedding, using DE, etc. The Sergeant’s product you are talking about has a ream of bad reviews so I am not sure where you looked. If you check Amazon, you will see them. They recently changed the name, but not the product. Also, many essential oils are toxic to cats – some will have quick adverse reactions, but some take a while to build up causing issues with kidneys, endocrine and other systems. All of the essential oils Sergeant’s uses are toxic to cats (long term) and the “inert” ingredients, according to their patent, has a very toxic carrier since they usually use solvents. A prime example of “natural” not being truly “safe”. Also, because the active ingredients do not fall under EPA purview Sergeant’s does not need to submit any studies of safety nor report adverse reactions to the EPA.

          • Ksol1959

             I used seargeants on my dogs & cats, my one dog & one cat seemed ok but my black cat & black dog had severe reactions to it, was up all night bathing them several times, went online & read the horrible stories , my poor dog Jessie suffered the most, it was like battery acid on her, thank god & my quick actions noone suffered any major side effects. never again will I use seargeants.

          • Spamelou

            I have been a vet tech for over ten years now, and have only seen ONE case where there was an adverse reaction to frontline and even then the owner was unsure if that was what her husband had in fact applied to the pet. BUT, I have seen hundreds of adverse reactions, some resulting in death, to over the counter products that declare themselves safe and effective. For those of you out there that think if something happens to your pet you can simply sue the company that made the product, think again. You can try, but you will only win what the “value” of your pet is. Meaning, unless you have an award winning show pet, that is a grand champion, the court will most likely award you $5.00. These over the counter products, generally get pulled off the shelves if so many negative cases are reported, but are put right back on with no change in ingredients only harsher warning labels. Nothing is completely safe or harmless and you have to weigh the pros vs the cons of any product you apply to your pet. There is generally a reason why you can buy something over the counter vs getting a prescription from your dr. Its cheaper so generally its made with cheaper ingredients which means less effective. I wish I  could say give pet armor a couple years and let them work the bugs out of it, but I know Hartz products have been around for at least 20 years, they are over the counter and I have never seen one good case come from using their products. 

        • Sshomaru

          “they do not do into the cat’s system, but rather is passed when they urinate”

          I’m sorry to inform you, but the only way the med is passed in the urine is when it is filtered by the kidneys. In other words, it has to be in the blood (go into the cat’s system) to be passed in the urine.

        • Debbiescalise

          I wish I NEVER USED PET ARMOUR! I honestly believe that is what killed my 6 year oldHEALTHY dog. Only a few days after applying Pet Armour on my dog she became ill. mostly vomitting. We took her to the vet she was examined and given a shot for the vomitting. 2 days later she was back to normal( THE VET INFORMED US IT MAY HAVE JUST BEEN SOMETHING SHE ATE) She was playful, eating well and going for rides in the car and walks everything seemed to be normal. Then EXACTLY 2 weeks later she went into liver failure and died. We are still so heartbroken and i;m crying as I type this. This happened just 5 days ago. 

  • Guest

    And what are these safer alternatives?

  • Taracol

    Comfortis from your Veterinarian is safe and effective

    • Anonymous

      Comfortis has its issues too, but it has the benefit of being a pill, so it does not get into your environment. All of these products you should only use when needed, when other things have failed and not every single month.

      • Jsueqorders

        Funny you mention the benefit of a pill. One of the benefits of Frontline is that is was not absorbed into the system, but remained on the surface of the pet.

        • Anonymous

          If you look at the article on fipronil (posted just prior to this one), you might be surprised at the conflict of interest as to the study author. Some of the downfalls of Frontline is that it is not able to be washed off should you have an adverse reaction. However, because it is on the surface of the pet, it is still absorbed also by the people, especially toddlers, that come into contact with the pet. The “generic” forms use carriers such as benzene, which is highly carcinogenic and is usually used to make a synergistic effect with the active ingredient (making it more highly toxic and more highly absorbed). Since “inert” ingredients (carriers or inactive ingredients) do not need to be disclosed due to claiming them as a “trade secret” this can likely cause all sorts of issues as well. The generic permission is to use fipronil, not the entire formulary. The generics have been granted “conditional registration” which means they can be on the market for two years before studies need to be submitted and they are re-reviewed for safety.

          • Anon

            Waitaminute.  To be clear, are you saying that if someone is set on using either Frontline or PetAmor, that Frontline is the safer choice?

          • Bug

            Pet Armor is not safe my vet has had several cats come in with side effects this porduct even kills cats. They said its not like frontline at all no matter what the company says

        • Halocrrazy

          wrong.  Advantage spreads to the hair follicles and paralyzes the fleas nervous system when they jump on the animal.  Frontline is absorbed into their blood stream which means the fleas have to bite the animal to die.  This is why Advantage isn’t considered water-proof and Frontline is.  Advantage loses efficacy everytime the animal is bathed because it stays on their skin. 

          • I’m a bit at a loss Halocrrazy – What does Advantage have to do with Frontline/Pet Armor and fipronil? Advantage contains Imidacloprid and in Advantage II, Pyriproxyfen was added as well. In fact, I re-read the article and it doesn’t mention Advantage at all, so i am not sure what you are trying to say I am “wrong” about.

            Here’s the list of EPA cleared documents dealing with imidacloprid. http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/chemical/foia/cleared-reviews/reviews/129099/129099.htm

            Here is an excerpt from Imidacloprid – Review of Domestic Animal Safety Studies with Advantage™ SpotOn Formulation:

            Some of the promotional literature also contradicts the labeling efficacy information. Brochure B97110 states, “Independent studies show that Advantage keeps working even if your pet gets wet. So you can still bathe your dog and not worry about losing your flea protection.” Most of the dog labels state that shampooing can shorten flea protection and there should be a reapplication of the product.

            Efficacy Review (comparing Advantage with Frontline TopSpot):

            Neither Advantage Nor Top Spot prevented . fleas from feeding.

            In fact, in the cat efficacy studies carried out in Germany where 27 cats were treated from the neighborhood surrounding the lab, and returned to their homes (ie. the environment where they originally picked up their infestation) after two weeks, one had a light infestation, after 21 days six had light infestations and after 28 days, 7 had light infestations. This would go towards that the cause of loss of efficacy isn’t water or bathing, but either the nature of the product or the immunity of fleas to it.

            Don’t get me wrong – Advantage has low absorption which allows SOME of it to be washed off in case of adverse reaction – which I like. Also, they have several products for different weight classes, which I also like.

            I still fail to see how exactly your comment ties into fipronil, Frontline, Pet Armor or any of the other generic fipronil products out now?

        • Pat Kountz

          frontline dose absorbed into the system

        • TinyTimmy<span class="comment-author-location"> from Portland, OR, United States</span>

          That’s bunk. It is absorbed through the skin. That was verbal marketing and the studies do not support it.

    • Lsmith766

      Comfortis is effective on flea control; it does nothing for ticks

      • Anonymous

        Comfortis is also a dog only product. Assurity for Cats is the cat version with spinetoram instead of spinosad, but it so far hasn’t faired very well with safety.

  • Jrobinson1502

    Pet Armor  does not work at all, my dog had fleas with in 24 hours. of the application. i am getting a refund,

    • Anonymous

       Good to know.  Be careful now applying other forms of chemical flea control. Pet Armor is doing a heavy duty campaign – and the package looks pretty much like the Frontline packages…

    • my3sonsmom

      The appearance of ‘excess’ fleas is NORMAL after a Pet Armor or Frontline application.  It’s because the fleas are *fleeing*!!!!

      • Anonymous

        Except it has a fairly quick knock down, My3SonsMom. So that would not explain why, after one week or two suddenly there is a larger excess of fleas again. What would explain it is that the fleas are getting immune to the chemicals, so manufacturers of many products need to continually “tweak” their recipe to make it more toxic, more easily absorbed, etc. The issue is really that there is a conflict of interest with the ASPCA promoting any pesticide product. It is not in the best interest of the pet parent or their families.

      • TinyTimmy<span class="comment-author-location"> from Portland, OR, United States</span>

        No, it’s not ‘normal’. You should see a slow decrease in fleas. According to the claims of Pet Armor, it’s supposed to kill fleas, not ‘scare them’. MY3SONSMOM – Your comment makes no logical sense.

    • Cdirvine1340

      How do you go about getting a refund.  I applied PetArmor to both of my dogs for the first time today.  My bulldog appears to be having no problems (no side effects that is), yet my other dog seems to be uncomfortable ever since I’ve applied it and I’m worried she is having side effects.  After reseaching, I am hesitant to re-apply this product to either of them.  I’ve used frontling for years w/ no problems and was simply trying to save some money on flea/tick protection.   I appreciate any help you can offer!  Thanks, Christina

      • Anonymous

        If you go to the flea menu and “reporting” that should help. I am sorry that your dog is having issues. Wash him in Dawn Blue immediately to get at least the residue from this skin & fur off.

  • Jrobinson1502

    we use comfortis last year it worked ok  but it is not a pill  it is a topical just like the others

    • Anonymous

      Comfortis is only in pill form. Maybe you used another product? Comfortis has spinosad.

  • Aworstell1974

    My chiuaua has had 3 seizures,(That I,ve noticed) In two weeks since I used the petarmour plus on her. I took her to the vet and they tell my Im not the first. It seems to be a side affect!

    • Anonymous

      I am so sorry to hear this!!! Please be sure to give your chi a bath immediately in Dawn Blue dish soap to be sure to get the rest of the Pet Armor off. If you want some tips on natural detoxing from this, please let me know. We have had to continue that with Timmy and it has worked wonders. It’s fairly inexpensive (you can pick and choose what you want to use) and well worth it. Would you please report this to the EPA please? Pet Armor did not have to go through testing and since such a huge percent is “inert” (meaning they don’t need to disclose it even if it’s toxic) it’s important that the EPA know what’s going on in the field. http://tinytimmy.org/fleas/reporting/

      • SLFC<span class="comment-author-location"> from Ironton, OH, United States</span>

        I wish I had seen this website sooner. My cheap ass mother sent me PetArmor when I specifically asked for Advantage. She even tried to tell me that the clerk who sold it to her said it would be ok to use the dog product on my cat. Had I done that he probably would have died. The dog I used it on got sick and developed a terrible rash. I didn’t even think “oh, could it be the flea medicine?” Ugh. 300 dollar vet bill. And I lost the savings I was trying to hoard to get rid of my psychotic room mates. Plus she used my situation and depressed state to get me to come back to my crappy hometown, when before I was happily living in Portland. I hate my mother. Absolutely hate her.

  • Reedz7

    My cat almost died last year because of fleas and my dog was miserable as well as my husband whom fleas love.  If I shouldn’t use these products, what should I use? all I know is the fleas have to GO!!!!

  • Anonymous

    I purchased for first time PETARMOR flea product in May after seeing it advertised on TV and have completed the 3 applications on our inside house dog and about 3 days after each application she had fleas again and we never had this problem with using Frontline. PetArmor did not work for our dog.

  • Debbiszoo

    I guess I would risk whatever slight chance of cancer there might (and that’s a big “might”) be rather than have my pet suffer with flea infestation and/or lyme disease.  I’ve been using Frontline for years and never had a problem, and I used the petarmor plus last month with great effects–no fleas or ticks though my neighbors’ pets are covered!

    • The studies show a 60% increase of bladder cancer in dogs with just one treatment per year. It’s up to you as a pet parent to decide what’s right for you, but I feel you ought to have all the information in order to make an educated decision and manufacturers don’t give it to you. For example, Frontline, in 2008, accounted for the majority of adverse reactions and 65% of the reactions in children.

    • uncommonsensesc

      Please, please, please go back to Frontline – the Pet Armor is not the same formulation and can do lots of damage to your pets. My experience is that it did not get rid of the fleas, it burned my kitten, caused fur loss, she is on anti-biotics and may have to have surgery. She’s 3 months old, was abandoned and scared when we got her – for me to know that I caused her more pain and misery because I trusted a product that the owners and manufacturers know is not safe just rips my heart out!

    • TinyTimmy<span class="comment-author-location"> from Portland, OR, United States</span>

      I am glad that you are comfortable using what ever you decide to use. However, pet cancer isn’t a big ‘if’. Several studies show increased risks of cancer and one attributes a 60% greater risk of bladder cancer in dogs who are treated just one time per year.

  • Mwscss

    very dangerous..it didnt hurt my dog, but I have a friend whose Mom’s dog got burns and a nervous disorder with this stuff…

    • Anonymous

      Please be sure to pass on the Reporting information under the Flea tab to your friend. It’s important and helps us take action to better educate and protect other pets.

  • Mwscss

    Frontline products arent working like they used to either..either the fleas are immune or frontline is watering down their product.

    • Anonymous

      The fleas and ticks are building an immunity. Usually the Frontline how works for a week or two and then you get re-infested. The flea cycle is about 2 weeks, so it’s a huge issue and ends up causing things like use of multiple products which, of course, increases the toxicity. I saw you also posted under alternatives, so I will give you some suggestions there as well.

    • Bug

      Advantage Multi works great prevents ticks fleas gets rid of worms does ear mites too

  • Jeff

    I bought PetArmor at WalMart and uded it as directed on my 80 lb male golden two days later he developed at 8 inch round chemical burn at the application site, I took him to the vet and he confirmed uit was caused from the PetArmor, he told me the carrier solution they use IS NOT THE SAME as Frontline, just the active ingredient is, they actually use xylene, a type of paint thinner, this product is made in China. I contacted FidoPharm  who is actually Valcera Chemical and threatened to bring legal action, they are in Yardley PA. they contacted the ASPSC and my vet and paid all the Vet bills and med costs, too bad I couldn’t get them to pay for the severe pain my dog was in for a week. NEVER AGAIN. PLEASE DON’T cheap out on your dog or cats health.

    • uncommonsensesc

      I agree – we have a 3 month old kitten and the same thing happened.  Her sore/burn is about a half inch or so but she’s a tiny thing so it’s really huge on her. She may have to have surgery on her neck; she’s currently on anti-biotics, she’s lost the fur around the sore and I feel so bad that me trusting Pet Armor caused her pain. I really think a class action lawsuit against Valcera Chemical is needed and this product needs to be pulled off all the shelves (actual and internet) and destroyed.

    • Labs519

      I am having the same problem with my 100lb yellow lab. I am taking my lab to the vet tomorrow for treatment. I will be contacting FidoPharm tomorrow.

  • Jeanne Watts

    We recently used Pet Armor for cats on our Kitty ,Shadow.  He became very sick, and instead of saving money and protecting our precious Kitty …. it cost us $400.00 plus for 3 Vets visits and Meds
    to get him well AGAIN!!!  I will never use this product again and will throw away the rest of the 3
    month supply.  We were fearful that our Kitty was going to die.   I am furious with this company and
    myself for trying to save a few bucks…..it wasn’t worth what our Kitty suffered and our emotional

  • ss

    You wrote “There are safer alternatives.”   WHAT ARE THEY?  I really want to know.  Every month as I am putting flea and tick meds on my cats I am afraid of the harm I might be causing them.  My cats are both indoors but they love spending time on the lanai ( a screened in porch with a roof) which exposes them to fleas.  One month I decided, because of my concerns regarding the flea meds, I would not use them and the cats got worms .  So, I had to use another medication to get rid of the worms along with the added expense of turning my house upside down cleaning it.  Now I am afraid not to use the flea protection.  I use Revolution and sometimes Advantage, recommended by the vet.  I don’t know what to do.

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  • uncommonsensesc

    I just had to take my 3 month old kitten to the vet due to using Pet Armor on her. It left a large sore on her neck where it was applied and she lost all her fur surrounding the sore. Before I could even tell my vet what I used, she asked if it had been Pet Armor and advised me to throw away the other 2 doses and to never, ever use it again. She has had other cases of cats having a bad reaction! I found instances on the internet where cats had died from using Pet Armor! My poor little kitten is now on anti-biotics, the fur may not grow back on the sore and she may have to have surgery on the place on her neck. I would like to visit in person the president and vice president of the company that owns Pet Armor and they’ll wind up with sores on their neck! There’s a special place in hell for people that are negligent and hurt animals and I’ll do whatever I can to see they wind up there as quickly as possible!

    • Bug

      Septiderm-V Skin Care Lotion will help with the sore and hair loss it did mine

  • kimmer66

    I just purchased PET ARMOUR for my two dogs (Jack Russel & Maltese) and We still have fleas, We normally use Frontline but live in a small town with No Petco’s or Pet store without driving 60 miles.  So we decided to go to our local Walmart and purchase Pet Armour.  Never again and I will tell everyone not to waste their money or put their animals through this bad experience!

  • Phil

    I have been using PetArmor on my two adult cats for many months with EXCELLENT results!
    No fleas or ticks, no more scratching.  The boys (my cats) are comfortable and have made several routine visits to our vet since I began using this product. He tells me that it is as safe as Frontline and as long as we (and the boys, of course) ae happy with it, keep using it. 
    I know of many, many cat owners that are pleased with this product. 
    All this crap I read hear has me baffled!

    • I am glad to hear you have not had any issues. Obviously not everyone does, or not right away. The plus to using it with your vet is that hopefully your vet is self educated and will help you make sound decisions where possible based on the health of your pets. However, the issue is that it’s a conflict of interest for the ASPCA to be sponsoring ANY flea & tick products and that all of the “new” generic formulations of Frontline are NOT the same – only the active ingredients are. This means that up to 99% of the formulary is NOT TESTED because they get a free pass using the sudies for only the active ingredient. The do not have to test the whole formulary. So, in a way your vet is very wrong when they told you that it’s the “same” as Frontline.

      Consider that’s like saying all citrus fruits are oranges, but never knowing what you have in your basket.

      Be well for you & the boys!

  • Wmutch123

    I cant find anyone thats selling Petarmor anymore.

  • Trn0034

    Question: does the hind leg parLysis go away?

    • Anonymous

      I wish I could tell you a solid yes or no. I guess the answer is “it depends” or “sometimes”. In other cases, like Timmy’s, he continues to improve.

  • Whit

    I started using Pet Armor about a month ago. I have one cat and one dog that stay inside the house and I have 7 dogs outside all of which have come from bad conditions. I have rescued each one of them. Since using Pet Armor I have had no problem with fleas or ticks. Last year I used Frontline on them and was in a constant battle with the fleas. I live in the country so fleas and ticks are abundant. I also have been grooming dogs for 10 yrs and have worked for a veternarian for 5yrs. I have clients that use both products, Pet Armor and Frontline. We have seen no adverse reactions to the Pet Armor. Though some have said that the Frontline doesn’t seem to be working on their pets as good as it used to.  I will continue using Per Armor on my pets throughout the summer. Time will tell how affective it is about June. That’s about when the flea season really kicks in here in Missouri.  

    • nancy<span class="comment-author-location"> from San Jose, CA, United States</span>

      well my daughter just used pet armor on her 3 year old dog, before this zoey, was fine, full of life, running around, enjoying the new baby kitten they just got.. my daughter thought she would try and save a bit of money, was going to the vet the next day for the pill for her dog, for fleas.. well within 12 hours of using pet armor, zoey started getting sick, they blew the light symptoms off thinking ok she vomited cause she drank her water to fast, was throwing up through out the day i believe it was the bile, and foam,and never layed on her side, but started too off and on . letting out sighs, of course they spoke to the dog saying hey baby girl you ok! well they took off and went and got groceries, from Meijers, where she picked up the product the day before, they come home the dog was at the door inside, she couldnt move, blink, nothing, and of course the product says waterproof.. she then calls the vet, there is something really wrong the dog wont walk, blink, I can clap my hands in front of her face, nothing, they pick up the big dog put her in the car, the dog is laying lifeless.. get her to the vet they bring a gourney out, she is seizing big time, find out she has internal bleeding, coming out of her …. she was in liver failure. had to put her to sleep…watch another animal suffer, 12 days apart… this armor plus has pesticide written all over the box.. I dont get why they put lot numbers on the box, but do not put expiration dates on them.. and come to find out it was expired by 6 months, not caring about any shelf-life, they took my daughters dog! Meijers took all of the products off there shelfs, and want my daughter to fill out a report! I will be sending the vile out to the University of Michigan, or the CDC; the fipronil in this product is very dangerous and can kill our pets.. I adivce all to stay away from it, if we can save just one more pet! and the heartache of losing our pets….

  • kathwhitm

    I started using Pet Armor in November.  In December my dog had his first staph infection on his stomach.  I mentioned that we switched to this product and the vet said it had nothing to do with his infection.  I continued on Pet Armor.  In February the staph infection reappeared and I did not think anything of the Pet Armor since the vet shot it down last time.  Well, here we are in April and he has his 3rd staph infection.  Nothing else has changed with him – food, shampoo, etc.  I am really beginning to think he is allergic to something in the Pet Armor, which is causing him to lick, causing the staph infection.  The vet took a culture tonight, so I will know in 3-5 days if this is a drug resistant staph, but I would like to know if anyone else has had recurrent staph infections since putting their dog on this.

    • TinyTimmy<span class="comment-author-location"> from Portland, OR, United States</span>

      Hi Kath – You should contact the EPA and ask to open a conversation with Kaitlin Keller. She might be able to point you in the right direction to find out if this is more common than not. I know that from what I seen, open wounds seems to be prolific. Staph is on our skin and then gets introduced into wounds. I am sorry you had this experience. Another possibility is Pet Armor and fipronil in general, can effect other systems, possibly lowering your dogs ability to heal or make him more susceptible to the staph.

    • nancy<span class="comment-author-location"> from Torrance, CA, United States</span>

      my daughters 3 year old dog, is dead!!!! she went and bought this product, at the last minute while she was grocery shopping, rather then going to the vet, to get her dog the pill, thinking it was safe.. she put it on her dog zoey.. bless her heart, during the day she had symptoms, of vomiting, just layng on her side, something she never does,, the pet armor she was vomiting up bile, they just assumed maybe she got a virus or something, the dog couldnt get into the garbage, no gum, no mints, that night she plopped down at the door life, less, couldnt move or blink, or walk, they had to get the zoey out of the van and put her on a gurney, she was in liver failure, dying bleeding out, that dog was fine the day before, she applied this Pet armor a few months prior had her vet check up was in good health… bam she is dead now, we had to put her to sleep!! Meijers took it off there shelves, I wont rest, this lovely family pet will not go out this way! the box has pesticide written all over it, but its on our shelves in the store, saying its safe to use? with not one box having an expiration date, even if it does have a long shelf life… the vet kept mentioning arsenic, the vile will be going to the University of Michigan, we do have a case number! through pet armor plus! this stuff is dangerous and not safe, I do not want anyone else going through what we did, and seeing her suffter, she was a loving, full of energy dog… that was never alone outside either…our cat we put frontline on just two weeks prior she is dead also I hope this gets around if it will, just even save one pets life! and stops any family from going through the pain of losing a family member, any questions, or if you have any information please email, jcars1984@yahoo.com….. I pray to God this stuff is removed permanenetly.. the dog couldnt even blink.. I can only pray that time, will bring healing to my daughter

  • Nickcoffman135

    I put PetAmor Flea Treatment on my dog 4/12/2012 my dog died on Easter Monday symptoms were  she acted drunk and disoriented, vomiting foam, diarrhea.  She had used Frontline from the vets office for 3 years prior with no problems.  I wouldn’t recommend this product to anyone that wants to keep their pet alive.  It was purchased at Walmart for $25.00

    • Andreay

      could have been others things cant blame it on the meds alone

      • Johnnyfischer

        It might be the type of pet I used it on my other dog and he didn’t have anything i could see but one of them it was very scary and I was afraid he was going to die right in front of me this is something any lovin pet owner would never what to witness

    • shelly

       The same thing happened to my dog.  We gave her the PetArmor Saturday night, and by Monday morning she was dead.  Heavy, fast breathing, vomiting, foaming. 

    • Cathy<span class="comment-author-location"> from Chesapeake, VA, United States</span>

      I to bought Pat Amror on Saturday June 29th I have seven dogs out of my three chichuahua’s my Pablo died since I placed it on him saturday afternoon not really noticing anything Sunday morning he woke up shivering all over and shaking which he does get cold so I thought nothing of it Sunday night at 11pm he died with me by his side,he had diarrhea and labored breathing and could hardly walk but it was too late nothing I could do. 🙁 🙁 🙁

      • TinyTimmy<span class="comment-author-location"> from Portland, OR, United States</span>

        I am so sorry to hear this Cathy. So very sorry. I believe we will see an increase in reactions to Pet Armor and other generic fipronil products as there is strong evidence that Frontline reactions has been under-reported for years and the generics did not have to do safety studies for the whole formulary. My heart goes out to you. Fly free little one.

    • Dani Martin<span class="comment-author-location"> from Hartwell, GA, United States</span>

      I applied Pet Armor to my dog a week ago. She is now dizzy, her head is tilted and she stumbles. Her appetite is not good. She had a severe flea infestation and was pulling her hair out. Like many others I thought I could save money, now I may lose my fur baby!!!

      • TinyTimmy<span class="comment-author-location"> from Portland, OR, United States</span>

        Hi Dani – I just responded to your other comment so I won’t double dip here. I would be happy to send you a free sample of Timmy’s Dirty Flea Soap (used to be Timmy Sudz). If you’d like to try it, it is great for allergies as well, I only ask you keep me posted on your progress. Email me if you’d like it at dirtyfleasoap@gmail.com

  • Bug

    I used the pet armor on my 5 cats and one showed a reaction to the product 2 weeks later she lost hair on the tip of her ear she is a 7yr old black short hair. The second one that did is a long haired tabby that wont be a year til may 26 2012 he lost lots of hair behind his ears. Last night I got to lookin at my oldest two both meduim hairs ones black and white hes two and the others black hes a year both brothers they have lost hair at the tips of thier ears. The only cat that hasnt yet is a gray short hair 10 yr old cat. The companys resonce when I called is its not our product that did it. IF IT WAS OUR PRODUCT IT WOULD CAUSE HAIRLOSS IN SPOT OF APPLICATION! Common sense here people you put something new on a cat they are gonna scratch and try to get it off hense it gets other places. Called my vet they even said every cats react different some are more likely to have a reaction then others. But non the less I had to give all the cats a bath and use antibotic salve to help the hair grow back and to stop them from itchin their ears. Im just hopin the youngest of them doesnt loose anymore hair. I WILL NEVER USE THIS PRODUCT AGAIN AND I DONT SUPPORT IT CAUSE OF WHAT IT DONE!

  • Bug

    After threatening to get a lawyer and talkin to one I am finally gettin my money back from pet armor. How ever it doesnt cover the damage thier products have done to my 5 cats! Pet Armor Bio Spot and Hartz products need to be taken off them market. They are harmful to animals and even cause death. They only products my vet reccomend are frontline and advantage none of the over the counter ones because they are very toxic and harmful to pets.

  • Andreay

    i used capstar on my dog and she went manic depressive ran around the yard like crazy killed the flea those maybe she was trying to outrun the fleas???

  • Jiggs913

    We bought this product for 4dogs–it didn’t work and all of the dogs had a terrible skin rash at the application site!! And, the hair turned yellowish–will never buy again!!

    • Labs519

      How did you treat the rash? Mine has the same problem.

  • Bob

    I saw the ad on tv. Went to Walmart and bought two packs for my dogs. It DID NOT help with the fleas. . Been about a week and my 60 pound female Sheppard just woke me up having a terrifying seizure under my bed. I was very upset because I did not know if she would pullout of it.  She has always been the picture of health . Never been sick .   I BELIEVE THE PET ARMOUR DID THIS TO HER.  I feel so bad because I put it on my girl. I will never ever use this crap again! Avoid this product  it is very dangerous.

  • Anonymous

    I have been using PetArmor on my three beagles for 2 years now, and my dogs have not had any problem with fleas or ticks. I used Frontline before this, but could no longer afford it. I have not noticed any difference in the efficacy of the product since switching. Absolutely no adverse side effects. So, for my dogs, PetArmor works great, and I will continue its use. A recent visit to the local Vet shows all my dogs in excellent health.

    • guest

       Interesting – as it has not, to my knowledge, been available for that length of time.

      • Ebellinger

        It has been on the market for 2 years

  • Nochipa Zyanya

    I just bought the PetArmor for cats last night.  Within 5 minutes of putting it on my cat she was running around all crazy, choking, drooling and foaming at the mouth.  I freaked out and immediately googled it.  I was shocked.  So many people have had the same problem.  I immediately washed it off of her (that was awful all by itself) and rubbed her down with a cloth.  So, in my attempt to be cheap, I almost killed my cat.  She’s doing fine today.  I’m just glad it didn’t take longer for her to exhibit the symptoms.  I can’t even imagine what would have happened if it had been allowed to completely absorb into her skin.  It was a very scary.  DO NOT USE PETARMOR!!!!!!!!!!!!  

    • nancy<span class="comment-author-location"> from San Jose, CA, United States</span>

      we just lost my daughters 3 year old dog, from this… same symptoms, within 24 hours she is gone, we had to put her down, and watch her suffer, not realizing, it was the petarmor … one symptom at a time, then paralyzed completely, bleeding interntally.. she was such a wonderful dog, just lost a cat two weeks prior with the filine.. two pets gone! heartbreaking, went to Meijers we realized later the box had a lot number but no expiration date… Meijers took it off the shelfs. and we did call the compamy we have a case # does anyone know if it was allowed back on the shelves in 2011 they removed, it and I read it was all over tv.. as being poison, I am calling the U of M today to have the vile tested… I am telling people myself do not buy it, that dog was fine, happy go lucky the day before playing with the new kitten…my heart breaks for both of my daughters.. as I sat and watched zoey the dog suffer and be put to sleep…our cat did alot of the same stuff with feline, I am calling all pet stores, and all stores to see who still carries it… and letting them all know what happened… but I dont see in google anywhere if this terrible product was suppose to be on the shelf? or broght back on, so so very heart broken

  • Smateer

    What is the safe and effective product to use for fleas and ticks?

  • rmg6249

    I used Pet Armor on my 4 dogs varying in sizes from small to large and my 6 cats.  I have had a major problem with fleas this year and the pet armor was amazing.  I haven’t found any fleas on my pets since I started treatment and they have not had any negative reactions to the treatments.  I recommended this product to all of my friends and family who have used it as well with no problems either and they love it.  Some animals react differently to some things but I personally love this product and the price and will continue to use/recommend it to everyone. 

  • Lsmith8253

    Since using PetArmor on my cats, one of them has been sick.  I’ve taken him 2 times to the vet and he is going back tomorrow.  He has been throwing up and has diarrhea.  He’s lost weight.  He is 9 years old and has never been sick before.  The only change I’ve made it to use PetArmor.  I will NEVER use it again.  My cat has had a blood work up and been tested for parasites.  All of his tests were negative.  He is wasting away and we can’t figure out why.  Please be careful of this flea medicine.  I know that is what caused my cat to be so sick.  I just hope and pray he gets better!!!

  • Johnnyfischer

    I used PetArmor for my three dogs The first week in june 2012 and on one of them the chocolate lab he had was a small adverse reaction to it didn’t seem like much at the time and didn’t think it was the medicine the symptoms he had was the shakes a little and was a little disorientated like he was drunk. This month which is july It was time to apply it again. I put it on his back in 4 spot this time and about an hour later he was laying down and foaming at the mouth and panting heavy and shaking very severe and threw-up everything in his stomach. It washed the medicine off his back and was fixing to take him to the emergency pet hospital. He started to get better and look better but we did not go. I believe it was the medicine that did that to him no more PetArmor for my dogs ever it as very scary   

  • Rosie

    I applied PetArmor to my one year old cat about 2 hours ago. He seems to show no symptoms of vomiting or diarrhea, but I accidentally applied the medicine too low, a place where he was able to lick it. I left him alone for about 5 minutes, and I came back and he was licking his mouth, I assumed that he had licked the spot that the medicine had been applied to. About 5 minutes after that, I took a towel and put dish soap on it, and scrubbed the area of which the medicine was on, then rubbed it down with a damp towel, and blow dried his fur so he wouldn’t lick it again. I am very worried that if he did lick some of the medicine, that he could get sick in someway. Has anybody experienced this before that can help me and give me a piece of mind? Thank you!

  • Judy Simon & Lucy Kiphart

    Thanks to all of you who made comments here, you have convinced me not to use it…I have not had a problem with Frontline. I have so many kitties and a dog, who brings in the fleas, i have to use something. I am afraid one of my kitties is reacting to the Frontline from last month, not sure.  She has always been a sickly lil girl, but seemed to be a lil more lathargic than normal. Just dont know what to do anymore. I cant have my babies infested with fleas & have too many to bath. I do flea comb them everyday, but that doesnt stop them and I have 3 with flea dermatitis very bad.  Any ideas anyone? I am at a loss!!!  Please advise…someone..my email is Judy@ioriinsurance.com.  Thank you!
    Judy Simon & Lucy Kiphart <3

  • PetArmour made both of our dogs sick for several days right after using it(very different breeds and ages from each other). They finally recovered and we tried to keep using it but id did not kill the fleas on either dog even after 2 1/2 months of use. Switched to K9Advantix and had immediate success and no negative reaction from either dog. Do yourself and your pets a big favor and don’t fall for the “same active ingredient at 1/2 the cost of Frontline” marketing message like we did. There is sometthing added as an inert ingredient and/or how or where it is made(China?) that makes dogs sick and neutralizes the flea killing effectiveness.

  • PetArmour made both of our dogs sick for several days right after using it(very different breeds and ages from each other). They finally recovered and we tried to keep using it but id did not kill the fleas on either dog even after 2 1/2 months of use. Switched to K9Advantix and had immediate success and no negative reaction from either dog. Do yourself and your pets a big favor and don’t fall for the “same active ingredient at 1/2 the cost of Frontline” marketing message like we did. There is sometthing added as an inert ingredient and/or how or where it is made(China?) that makes dogs sick and neutralizes the flea killing effectiveness.

  • Lori B<span class="comment-author-location"> from Ahoskie, NC, United States</span>

    I just put Pet Armor on my 6 month old cat two days ago. Ever since she has gone from playful to lifeless. No vomiting or diarrhea yet. Washe her with Dawn dish soap and praying for the best. I will not be using this product again!

  • Bellatrix<span class="comment-author-location"> from Hamden, CT, United States</span>

    We applied Pet Armor on our 9 year-old Australian Shepherd mix. 24-36 hours later, he developed a high fever (106 F) with vomiting, abdominal pain, and an unsteady gait. We took him to an emergency vet hospital, where he was thought to have developed an aspiration pneumonia from vomiting. He received IV fluids, pain medication, and antibiotics and stayed in the hospital overnight. He thankfully survived. After reading others’ accounts, we believe that Pet Armor led to his illness. Our $2000 vet bill and his severe illness was a high price to pay for “saving” $25 by buying an over the counter flea medication. This should be taken off the market or given more regulatory scrutiny.

  • River song<span class="comment-author-location"> from North Franklin, CT, United States</span>

    one of my cats has Pet armor(even tho hes never been outside or had fleas I was told by the apt manager that flea control products are a requirement for owning cats in the building)And last night I got a new 6 month old kitten.sadly she was COVERED in fleas. So I did what most pet owners have done for years I bathed her with Harts Ultra Guard rid Flea&tick shampoo.rinsed and dried her off And just before bed use Sergent’s PRONYL OTC for cats on her. Since it had the same ingredients as Pet armor(had to run out to Stop and shop to get it,so i wouldn’t have a flea issue in the house as I am allergic to flea bites) So far she seems fine,since its a new home and all that trauma of a bath last night im not surprised that shes not eating much,and she dosnt seem to be in pain.All but a few fleas are left on her and it seems like they are droping off by the hour.But after reading all these reveiws I am now extremly worried.Should i rewash my cat in plain water to get the stuff off her,leave it alone,or wash her with cowboy magic and hope the poision wont effect her to badly for only being on for a day? Like i said she seems fine…..

    • TinyTimmy<span class="comment-author-location"> from Portland, OR, United States</span>

      You should immediately bathe your kitten with Dawn Blue Dish soap – not the antibacterial, just the plain old vanilla type. Here’s why:

      You just exposed your kitten to not one, but two types of pesticide products with multiple pesticide ingredients in both. The Ultra Guard has an awful track record on its own. The Pronyl is probably already absorbed so it won’t matter much to the efficacy, but you’ll be getting what’s left on the fur off.

      I’d start using a flea comb as well and maybe DE in your apartment for those fleas that fell off before treatment. You can go to the alternatives section here for info. Or even something like Fleadom would work. I haven’t added that yet, but it works well for emergencies like a flea-covered kitten.

  • Windowtreats@sbcglobal.net<span class="comment-author-location"> from Bedford, TX, United States</span>

    My cat died due to kidney failure caused by petarmour. I thought cheap because I have 6 cats and it killed my cat. I tried to feed her baby food and bought stuff off internet but finally after 10 days of a painful loosing battle I had no choice but to put her down. Its been such a painful experience knowing it could had been prevented. Please pass this on to everyone to save your beloved pet.

    • TinyTimmy<span class="comment-author-location"> from Portland, OR, United States</span>

      I am so sorry to hear about your loss. I expect we will see even more adverse reactions to Pet Armor since Pelligro bought them. They have a very poor quality control history with human meds as well. Please be sure to use the “What to Do if Your Pet Has a Reaction” link on the top right menu bar. It will give you instructions on how to report issues. It is the only way we can get word to the EPA about these issues.

  • Savion Kellum<span class="comment-author-location"> from Arlington, TX, United States</span>

    Oh my God…just got off the phone with asp a about my 7year old Great Dane. I applied pet armor on him andthe day after we applied the chemical he could barely walk and seemed very weak. The next day he developed pus filled knots on his shoulders.we then washed him very well with dawn dish washing liquid and gave him a shot of antiboctics. I thought he was just in pain the reason why he wouldn’t eat so I then gave him a 50mg Tramadol which seemed to help. The next day he seemed better but the knots started weeping and his skin was detacted resulting in us having to clip some off .By the time everything drain out and having to clip his skin there is a big nasty looking sore about 20 inches long and 3inxhes wide. No money for vet so the best thing I could do is give him a tramadol when he seems to be in pain wash area with dawn apply neosporin and si

    • TinyTimmy<span class="comment-author-location"> from Portland, OR, United States</span>

      I am so sorry to hear about your dog! Sadly you are not alone in having this sort of thing happen. Please take some time to go to the page here about what to do if your pet has a reaction. It also gives info on how to report, which is very important since it is the only way the EPA can get information about adverse reactions. Please keep me posted!

  • Cat<span class="comment-author-location"> from Knoxville, TN, United States</span>

    Though rats have been proven to increase thyroid hormones in rats, I think it is really important to note that similar studies that were done on sheep showed only very slight increases in thyroid hormones and absolutely none in rams.
    Link: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378427410000329
    Many studies have been done about toxicity and with the exception of rabbits, rats are the only pets to show the same signs of toxicitiy, “Fipronil products for veterinary use as well as other end-use fipronil products have a low order of toxicity by dermal, oral, or inhalation exposure, except possibly with extralabel use in rabbits [43], [44] and [53]. Fipronil is not a skin sensitizer. It may cause slight skin irritation and mild irritation to the eyes, but these cleared up witihin three days.”
    Link: http://www.sciencedirect.com.proxy.lib.utk.edu:90/science/article/pii/S0195561601000134
    I by no means want to say that fipronil isn’t dangerous, practically every medicine or chemical can have dangerous side-effects and should always be used with care. I just think it is important to look at all of the information before determining what is best for your pet.

    • TinyTimmy<span class="comment-author-location"> from Portland, OR, United States</span>

      Hi Cat – If you want all the information you can’t just look at one ingredient which is at most only a few %’s of the whole. For PetArmor, for example, uses a carrier. These are usually things like benzene (or a derivative) which causes generational leukemia or acetone (nail polish remover). Often times these carriers are more responsible for short term use than the pesticide active ingredient. Manufacturers do not need to disclose these “other” or “inert” ingredients, claiming them as a trade secret. They make up usually 95-99% of the product.

      Second, these studies do not study long term use issues, given on a regular basis. This is why people can give topical flea products for sometimes years, then suddenly have issues. Or after longer term use their pet develops things like renal failure, seizures, tumors, cancers, diabetes and thyroid issues. Those are not covered in studies because they are not required. Since these are pesticides there is no after-market surveillance of these health issues.

      Third, you can’t go by a rabbit or rat study for a flea product. They never test the flea product on these animals, using instead cats and dogs. They might test other uses on those animals, but not flea products.

      In order to be educated and make educated decisions, you have to compare apples to apples, not pick and choose which studies to use and which to ignore.

      • Judy Simon<span class="comment-author-location"> from Cincinnati, OH, United States</span>

        Timmy & His peep really know the flea & tick products. If you go to his website, you will see all the research. Plus Timmy was an actual case. Cat, have you seen the animals flesh being eaten off? Have you seen videos of Tiny Timmy? Most of my cats have died from Renal Failure & that is a cause of spot on treatments….just sayin’

        • TinyTimmy<span class="comment-author-location"> from Portland, OR, United States</span>

          I think was trying to say that PetArmor/Frontline/other generics are “safe” specifically. Perhaps she ought to read the comments from pet owners who lost their pets to PetArmor. There’s a long history where it’s been shown that Frontline has not correctly reported adverse reactions for years. Now that it’s available as “generic” brands, we are seeing how many adverse reactions there likely were all along.

  • Dani Martin<span class="comment-author-location"> from Hartwell, GA, United States</span>

    I used Pet Armor on my dog last Friday, Sept 26, 8 days ago. She now is unsteady on her feet, her head is tilted and she stopped eating today. I am frantic!! We live in a small town and the vet is closed on weekends with no emergency number. What can I do? Please help!!!

    • TinyTimmy<span class="comment-author-location"> from Portland, OR, United States</span>

      Dani – I am so sorry to hear about your experience and how poorly your dog is doing. First, we have a page here to give some guidance on both what to do immediately and also how to report the incident so it gets logged correctly and others need not suffer. http://tinytimmy.org/fleas/reporting/

      First, bathe her in simple Dawn Blue – not anti-bacterial or scented or any other type – just simple Dawn Blue. This is not good to use all the time, but in this case it will strip off any remaining Pet Armor from her fur so that she does not keep being exposed to what is on her. Second, make sure she gets plenty of fluids. If she won’t drink on her own, try putting your finger in some fresh water and wetting her lips. You can also use a syringe to force some water in her mouth. You want to do this regularly throughout the day. To stimulate appetite you can use some dehydrated chicken and sprinkle it on wet food. You can also use some non-seasoned beef stewed in water with some rice added. Make it very runny. Or, if all else fails, some simple baby food heated in the microwave for 5-10 seconds (then put your finger in different places to make sure it is barely warm). You might need to put a little bit on your finger and put it to her lip.

      Are you able to give SubQ fluids? (Some people can do this at home)

      Feel free to call us (there’s a widget at the bottom of the homepage) or email directly.

      I wish you all the best and am sending healing thoughts to you and your little girl.

  • Angela Hernandez<span class="comment-author-location"> from Valdosta, GA, United States</span>

    I just put the second dose of Pet Armor on my cats about 4 days ago. The first dose worked really well, so I was pleased to have found something inexpensive.. (we have lots of cats) Now, one of my cats have a bald spot exactly on the spot I placed the medicine and a couple spots on her head.. Then I remembered that when I put it on this particular cat, she was extremely figgity and some of it did get on her head..

    The only thing I could think of was the PetArmor which made me look it up on google and I am shocked. Now I am worried that it may get worse, or even kill her????? What can I do? It has been too long to wash it off?

    • TinyTimmy<span class="comment-author-location"> from Portland, OR, United States</span>

      Hi Angela,

      I am truly sorry you’ve had this experience. There is a link at the side bar and on the main page on top that tells you what to do if your pet is having a reaction. First things first – Please wash her immediately in Dawn Blue. Not anything else – not antibacterial soap, not the oatmeal shampoo, not another brand — just plain Dawn Blue. This will remove most the the Pet Armor from her fur. Since it disperses there it’s always a good step if there’s a reaction.
      Her behavior with the first application looking back probably shows it didn’t sit well with her. The loss of hair at the application site is common. Some animals even develop burn-like wounds. To put your mind at ease I don’t think you need to worry about “worst case scenario” just yet.
      Take things one step at a time. First, bathe with Dawn Blue (as above). After that is sorted, click either the top banner or side bar where the notice is of “what to do if”.
      We’re here if you need us!

  • Aaron Dorney<span class="comment-author-location"> from United States</span>

    My cat is at the vet all hour emergency care center. I used this product and within 24 hours she was foaming at the mouth couldn’t walk couldn’t move and was choking. They are saying this product is extremely dangerous for cats and should not be used. She still may not make it through this.. I’m heart broken right now..

    • TinyTimmy<span class="comment-author-location"> from Portland, OR, United States</span>

      Aaron I am so incredibly sorry to hear about your cat and am hoping for a full recovery her. I contacted someone who is putting together a Frontline class action suit to see if they are extending that to the generic products as well. I’ll keep you posted when I hear. If you need any help with your kitty, please let me know. Timmy had to go through a lot of detox for a long time after when I first rescued him in the middle of having a toxic reaction. PLEASE BE SURE TO REPORT THIS. There is a link at the top of the page and the sidebar that tells you what steps to take. Also ask the attending vet to report this via the EPA reporting portal.

  • Belladonna Von Diaz<span class="comment-author-location"> from United States</span>

    Btw I have ALWAYS used PetArmor only when need be & my boys have NEVER had any side effects. Which can only mean I’ve been doing it right. If you use any flea killer product the effects would be the same if they were to ingest it after licking their paws clean after scratching. Never put any products on their scuffle. You ONLY do it btwn their shoulder blades.

    • Belladonna – By inferring that all adverse reactions are from misapplication you are doing a great disservice to yourself and your pets. The EPA has stated only 12% of adverse reactions are from misapplication which would be any of the following scenarios: wrong product used (ie dog product on a cat), misapplication, wrong weight class (ie a large dog dose on a small dog or titrated dosages). I am glad that you have so far not have experienced any “side effects” personally, however acute issues are not the only issues and these products are systemic, not just topical. Please don’t berate someone who has had an adverse reaction in their pet and blame them. That is base and does not help anyone. Chances are they are in the 88% of people who do have a genuine adverse reaction, not the 12% where user error (a favorite excuse of pet pesticide manufacturers).

  • Shannon Richey<span class="comment-author-location"> from Youngstown, OH, United States</span>

    I will preface this by saying that as with humans, every cat can react differently. That said, I applied PAP as directed. Within hours, my cat was acting oddly, hyper-reactive to sound and acting as if something had nipped her. Shortly after that, I observed her gait become abnormal, shaky and when I lifted her, she was having tremors. Immediately I called our vet who said to wash off the application site and you can believe I did, pronto. Unfortunately, she hasn’t been the same cat since. A week after that she was still exhibiting behavior changes, lethargy and also upper respiratory response (sneezing, eye watering etc.) and a week still after that, is to the point of not wanting to eat or drink. Just today, she was admitted to the vet for testing due to this issue. This last may or may not be due to the PAP application, but all I know is, my baby is unwell and hasn’t been since we used this medication. Again, your mileage may vary. You and I could take the same pill, and have very different experiences. I have used Advantage on this cat before and had no noticeable reaction. All I know is I will never again use OTC flea treatment and would suggest to anyone that before you do, you read multiply-sourced reviews of said treatment options. I tried this to “save money” and to-date have spent over $300 at the vet. *PS: To illustrate that each cat is different, I will add that I put the same PAP/Lot # on 3 stray cats. Out of those 3, only 1 appeared to have any adverse reaction and that was a sore that became infected at the application site.

    • TinyTimmy<span class="comment-author-location"> from Portland, OR, United States</span>

      While, of course, it is true that not every animal has an immediate reaction, these pesticides cause other less acute issues such as CRF, etc. with “normal” use. Even moderate use. BUT to your issue. PLEASE keep the applicator and box you used. Send it to a lab to be tested. Have your vet test your cat for deltamethrin. Sergeant’s now makes PetArmor and Sergeants is now owned by Perrigo. Recently I have become aware that some lots of PetArmor have been contaminated and caused pet deaths and severe reactions. Feel free to contact me at t.timmykitty@gmail.com and I can put you in touch with someone at the EPA working on this issue. This knowledge will be important for your vet to know.

      • Shannon Richey<span class="comment-author-location"> from Youngstown, OH, United States</span>

        Unfortunately, it’s too late for that. I found “Pet Armor” on Facebook and it looked like they did issue refunds. Well I didn’t have my receipt, so I called Walmart to see if I could get a duplicate receipt, and even without one, Walmart gave me a refund on a 6-pack box with 4 used. Now that I think about it and if I give into conspiracies, that does seem a bit suspicious. Of course it isn’t about getting my money back. I’d much rather have no money and a healthy cat. I just pray she’s going to be alright. Your advice however, is valuable. I would advise anyone else to heed it and damn, something should be done about getting this poison off the shelf. I will however, be happy to e-mail and/or speak to EPA regardless of having the product. I know where it was purchased etc. if that will do any good.

        • Tiny Timmy<span class="comment-author-location"> from Portland, OR, United States</span>

          In order to report properly you need the lot # etc & unused package. But you can still report this, and should. You can click the pinned link on top of this page that says “If you are having a reaction right now” and there is reporting info further down. It’s important to do so as it’s the only way the EPA can attempt to track sharp spikes in products.

          This is hardly a conspiracy. It’s just the cost of doing business & the archaic regulations written by industry lobbiests that allow it. It is currently impossible for even the smartest of people to make fully educated decisions. I do this not to ban all of these products, but to get the worst of them off the shelves & give scientifically supported information so people can make decisions right for them with information that is not trickling down from manufacturers in some way.

          The only way these companies will change their business practices is for consumers to vote with their dollars. Currently they make billions & paying out for tens of thousands of pets in a drop in the bucket to them.

          It is unsual, even for Walmart, to give a refund like that. Many people have tried with other products & have been treated poorly.